Saturday, March 7, 2009

Romans 13- Yahweh's Govt. or Secular Govt.?

Here is a reply post to a woman who is confused by Romans 13 because her heart tells her the state/Feds should have no authority over her husbands' right to educate their children in the manner they see fit.
She knows that Romans 13 is problematic, however she did not do the research to figure out why.
We think that a person violates Torah when they fail to stand up against evil. (Psalm 94:16, Psalm 144,Proverbs 25:26, Proverbs 31:8-9,Numbers 31:3,Nehemiah 4:17-18, Exodus 22:2-3(right to self defense),Luke 22:35-36

Here is the Text of Romans 13:
Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.
Rom 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.
Rom 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:
Rom 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon him that doeth evil.
Rom 13:5 Wherefore [ye] must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.
Rom 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.
Rom 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute [is due]; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Our response to her:
We do believe that those verses have been misapplied(Romans 13)....if you do a Concordance search, you will see that in the KJV, it says "Higher powers"...."ministers" (vs 6 attending continually to this very thing) and "rulers"(are not a terror togood works(**the kind you do to show you have Faith**), but to evil(**sinning***))....please also keep in mind that the letters, when originally written, were not numbered or put into paragraphs, so one should really start at the beginning of the book and remain in continuity, not breaking things up. Higher is number 5242, and has better, excellency, higher, supreme in the definition.....powers is # 1849 and has heavenly, lawful in the meaning. Ministers(verse 4), # 3011 has, a functionary in theTemple or Gospel, a worshipper of God. Rulers is 758, Chief ruler,to be first, reign over.The Holy Spirit leads me to believe that the writer was intending for the "believer" to be listening to the "governmental authority"of the gospel.........since Yahweh is my chief ruler, higher power,magistrate,heavenly and lawful and my Elders *where I worship* are worshippers of Yahweh(God).......We try to stay in the Spirit while reading, not carry preconceived,perhaps convenient political, interpretations.

Psalm 22:22 "I will declare your name to my brethren"
Isaiah 42:8 "I am Yahweh, that is my name"
The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it.--Albert Einstein"
Such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing. -Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man"

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